"Updating Office By Using Client Updates" advice + Office 2003

Updating Office By Using Client Updates

I've just read this article, and I'm rather surprised by the advice it
contains that "organizations should distribute client (binary) updates to
users' computers and run the updates separately on each local computer."
(i.e. rather than updating an administrative installation point and
redeploying the application).  What happened to Intellimirror?  What if the
local users don't have administrative privileges?  It rather looks like a
leap backwards...

Is this recommendation going to apply to Office 2003 too, or have the
deployment issues with updating administrative installation points been
fixed in the new version?


James Reather
9/14/2003, 7:35:47 AM

1 replies

Hi James,

The Office 2003 Resource Kit is available at

In the Office XP article you mentioned the use
of updating an Admin Point and recaching the clients
is still the recommended approach.

 'To date, Microsoft has proposed two solutions to help keep administrative and client images in sync. The first is to manage the
computing environment so that client computers are recached and reinstalled promptly after each update to the administrative share.
This is still the recommended option..."

Issues arise, as the article mentions, when folks may have
access to more than one source of the original .MSI package.

Office 2003 includes an option to basically cache the
CD on the computer and there are other changes available as well

  <<"James Reather" <j***********eather.com> wrote in message news:u******************MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Updating Office By Using Client Updates

I've just read this article, and I'm rather surprised by the advice it
contains that "organizations should distribute client (binary) updates to
users' computers and run the updates separately on each local computer."
(i.e. rather than updating an administrative installation point and
redeploying the application).  What happened to Intellimirror?  What if the
local users don't have administrative privileges?  It rather looks like a
leap backwards...

Is this recommendation going to apply to Office 2003 too, or have the
deployment issues with updating administrative installation points been
fixed in the new version?

James >>
I hope this helps you,

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

  *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

The Office 2003 System parts explained

Bob Buckland ?:-\)
9/15/2003, 12:09:09 AM

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